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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: File Transfer Using Telnet Host Menu?
Message-Id: <1995Feb1.215555.40203@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 1 Feb 95 21:55:55 MDT
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Organization: Utah State University
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In article <3gp37d$pkt@news.cc.utah.edu>, Boyd Fjeldsted <bebrblf@business.utah.edu> writes:
> After using Kermit to telnet to a remote host, is it possible to
> download files from the remote host by means of the host's file
> download menu? If so, what Kermit settings are required? If not,
> is there any other way of downloading files from the remote host
> (which does not provide FTP services)? An example of such a host
> is cenbbs.census.gov -- which which was set up as a bbs server, but
> now also provides telnet services on port 23.
----------------
Looks rather like a run of the mill telco style BBS but hooked
to the Internet, sigh. Here is what their blurbs say on the matter:
--------
August 30, 1994
A full internet connection with this BBS is not yet available.
There will be a message in this area when the approriate hardware has
been installed and tested.
To download files from this BBS it is necessary to either call via modem
or to access the files through the annonymous ftp, or the annonymous ftp
sections of gopher or mosaic (graphical gopher). For gopher or mosaic,
the annonymous ftp line appears together with the BBS under "5. Access
Our Other Information Services" Directories similar to the BBS ones
appear for ftp. For example the ftp /economy contains the same files as
the BBS Directory containing Monthly Retail Trade, Monthly Wholesale
Trade Sales & Inventories, and Monthly Manufacturers & Trade Inventories
-More-
--------
But if we keep going, we see the following:
--------
Select from the following transfer protocols:
T - TYPE file to your screen
C - ASCII with DC2/DC4 Capture
A - ASCII only, no Control Codes
X - XMODEM
O - XMODEM-1k
Y - YMODEM (Batch)
G - YMODEM-g (Batch)
S - SEAlink
K - KERMIT
W - SuperKERMIT (Sliding Windows)
Z - ZMODEM-90(Tm)
Choose one (Q to Quit):
---------
That looks like a familiar list, doesn't it. So I tried W first
and the protocol failed at the end. I then tried K and that failed at
the end too. But the failures were in signaling no more files follow so
the one transferred file looked ok. Neither dealt with long packets, despite
the names. MS-DOS Kermit v3.14 at my end, running across the Internet
with no modems involved.
I would suggest to the BBS sysops that they have a careful look
at MS-DOS Kermit Lite, designed to be run as an external protocol on BBS'.
It does "the whole thing."
Moral of the story: Carry On Regardless.
Joe D.